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    Turbo

    In researching this:

    This may actually have been fixed in the 3.6.5 version-- I was running the previous version on that machine.

    When I tried to update, though, the whole thing came crashing down. So.. Another thread will be created soon on that.

    Cheers,
    -Greg

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    Turbo

    Greetings all:

    Greg Again here. Busy day. Am I missing something?

    So: I got my inverter going, and then I go and need to copy it X number of times. I can't use the "Export / Import" feature as that maintains the XIDs- So, what I've been doing is using the OLD UI to use the little green "+" copy button for the whole data source.

    This works well. Is there a way to do that same feature in the new UI?

    There's a way to copy points in the burger button to the right of the point name, but not to do the same thing on data sources.

    Cheers,
    -Greg

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    Turbo

    Greetings, all:

    Here's another weird one that may be unique to me. We do Solar. I do a LOT of different inverters. Even those that follow the Spec don't follow the spec, so nothing is ever the same.

    I've found another odd case that makes things behave oddly;

    I have an Inverter Template file for both Modbus TCP and Modbus Serial. This has ALL The points that I would conceivably care about for a solar inverter, and their scaling and historical logging settings. This file changes occasionally as new features are released. This template file gets maintained as a JSON Data export. When I add new things, I export this, and that becomes the New Template File.

    The side effect of this is that I am duplicating XID's throughout my system. This isn't a Big Problem, except in the case I just found: This site has both Serial and Ethernet connected devices. I did some modifying, and imported in the Serial template file, and it merrily changed the Ethernet device's point settings (since they had the same XID as the Serial export, since that file was made via export and editing).

    Also, I've got lots of things phoning home via the Persistent TCP Publisher: I always append a unique name (the SITENAME_ as an XID prefix).

    I guess- I'm always going to use this "template file" approach, when new machines get configured, and I can't figure out a good way to get over this. Maybe I should set up a Dummy Mango Install JUST to store my configs that never polls anything, and just copy'n'edit the data sources there, hence getting a new XID each time I copy, rather than storing the configs as JSON files..

    In fact, I think I maybe just answered my own question.

    Okay then. Thanks for Listening.

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    Turbo

    Heya--

    The title says it all. It appears that if you leave the "location of time field" blank, Mango throws a NullPointerException. It seems the other required values there tell you that they are required, rather than tossing NullPointerException.

    Next time you go through updating the Excel Reports module, maybe have a quick look at the error handling to get the "location of time field" caught if it's blank.

    This is in Mango 3.6.5

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    Turbo

    Greetings, all:

    I emailed about this a while ago-- It's more of a nuisance than a "broken thing", but here's what happens: This is on Mango 3.6.5,. running on ARM

    (1) I verify operation of a New Device using the MODBUS TOOLS in Mango- Polling stuff to make sure it works.
    (2) Then I go through, and configure points. This usually starts with me importing a Template file that has the names and such, and then I go through and use the edit buttons to change the Offset as necessary.
    (3) It used to be that when the little enable slider was set, the system would poll, and off you go.
    Now, it doesn't seem to do that. When I enable the slider, it just sites there saying "No Value"

    Restarting the data source doesn't fix it either. I seem to have to restart Mango in order to get this to work, at which point it comes up fine.

    This Data Source is attached via a Serial to USB adapter. I have (3) devices on this little RS-485 segment. One of them is a power meter, and it always seems to be fine. The other two are inverters. They all work via Modbus Tools, but it seems there's something strange about adding/editing points and then enabling them.

    This is a sort of a pain when I set up net devices, as this behavior seems to exist whenever you turn the thing off and on again.. Ie, if I make a change to a point, and it saves and updates, that point doesn't start polling again.

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    Turbo

    Greetings, Jared:

    Thanks for the response-- I'm literally clicking the "export button", then hitting "SAVE AS", then opening it in Notepad++ to find/replace on various names and such, and then pasting it back in. I sort of assumed Notepad ++ was UTF-8, but I suppose maybe it isn't.

    I'll copy'n'paste in the future.

    Cheers,
    -Greg

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    Turbo

    Greetings, all:

    I do a lot of JSON exports to build up my monitored facilities. I've got a Big Folder here of equipment I've configured, and when I set up a New Site, I just grab the JSON's I need, import them, and then go forth with strength and vigor.

    Something I've noticed, though- The import tool seems to choke on certain things in the "unit"-- 0_1573757947918_ImportParse.PNG

    This is in the Legacy import page, as I import it here, then use the "copy" button to configure the rest of my sources after fixing one of the imported ones.

    When you look at the JSON file in question, you see ""unit":"W?h"," instead of "Wh" or something else.

    So- This is an export from Mango 3.6.5 into a new Mango 3.6.5. This only seems to happy on the pre-defined data types. I'm gradually removing these from my JSON in favor of ascii-printable units, but this is still something that exists.

    It's not a Big Deal, just letting you all know.

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    Turbo

    Oh.

    Wait.

    This appears to be solved by a browser refresh.. Apparently that real time table in the upper left doesn't update dynamically with the rest of the stuff if the point isn't already marked as "!".

    So. Refresh the page. Is the answer. To that question.

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    Turbo

    Okay:

    Here's a new one for me. I broke some points by renaming things wrong. Then I renamed them back to where they should be. I didn't change / delete any of the XIDs.

    Now, with the Persistent TCP source, I have most of those points showing a "!", and also showing the wrong real time value. The historical data seems okay.

    I've attached what I'm seeing: The point name area in the upper left shows the last point from this morning before the rename happened. The data at the right, and it's time stamps, are correct.

    0_1573746880742_Persistent_Point_Confusion.PNG

    This is also showing up in our summary screens as well.

    Can someone help with this?

    Cheers,
    -Greg

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    Turbo

    Greetings, all:

    Thanks for the answers here. I appreciate the clarity on this.

    As for "Sync every five minutes" vs "save real-time data"-- I'm a bit unclear on how these options interact with each other.

    I'd like to get all the data that my systems in the field are logging. The points out there are set with different poll and logging settings. So if I set to "sync every 5 minutes" (or something similar), does that mean that my data points will update every 5 minutes with the logged data? Vs the "save real time data" that saves all the data that comes in from every poll?

    Is that the proper way of using those options?

    Cheers,
    -Greg

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